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身在曹营，心在汉 · English translation: While I may physically be here, my heart belongs elsewhere. · Answers · Reference comments · KudoZ™ ... Thissiteusescookies. Someofthesecookiesareessentialtotheoperationofthesite, whileothershelptoimproveyourexperiencebyprovidinginsightsintohowthesiteisbeingused. Formoreinformation,pleaseseetheProZ.comprivacypolicy. 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01:57Apr27,2009ChinesetoEnglishtranslations[PRO]Art/Literary-Idioms/Maxims/SayingsChinesetermorphrase:身在曹营，心在汉Thanksinadvance!WarrenLindsay(X)KudoZactivityQuestions:36(2open)(2closedwithoutgrading)Answers:12Localtime:06:01Englishtranslation:WhileImayphysicallybehere,myheartbelongselsewhere.Explanation:Mytwocents:SeveralissueswithtranslatingclassicalChinese.1)Pronounsareofttimesmissing,soforclarity'ssake(fornonClassicalspeakers),Iusuallyputthembackin.2)Historicalreferencesaredifficulttoplacebecauseitwouldcauseendlessconfusion.Sointhiscase,Ichosetotranslatethemeaninginsteadoftryingtocramthehistoricalreferencesin.Ofcourse,thereareinstanceswherethehistoricalreferenceismoreimportantandshouldbeleftin,butthat'suptothediscretionofthetranslatorandtheneedsofthetranslation.(seeAaron'sreference)Selectedresponsefrom:SzeKwanChan(X)Localtime:07:01GradingcommentManythanks!4KudoZpointswereawardedforthisanswerSummaryofanswersprovided4bodyisinoneplace,whileheartisinanotherAbbyLeung3WhileImayphysicallybehere,myheartbelongselsewhere.SzeKwanChan(X)3Youmayhavemyperson,butyoucannotcapturemyheart.XiaohongZhou3physicallypresentbutmentallyabsentkarcsy3notbelongsomewhereatheartJasonYoung3seekingshelterattheCaocampwiththeheartintheHancamppkchanSummaryofreferenceentriesprovidedTranslationdependsAaronGilkison(X)Discussionentries:0Automaticupdatein00:    Answers23mins confidence:seekingshelterattheCaocampwiththeheartintheHancampExplanation:Whatdoesthissayinchinese?-Yahoo!AnswersSecondbubble:(ThisisaChinesesaying,butwaswritteninanoddway...shouldbe我身在曹营心在汉,itmeans:)Mybody'sintheenemycamp,butmysoul's...answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090413072330AA0URe6-27k-Cached-Similarpages-谁能帮我翻译英语作文_百度知道-[Translatethispage]我可是“身在曹营心在汉”呀，虽然我正做着题，却目不转睛地望着电脑，不一会儿便发起呆来。

...sometimesisapairofabsolutelyirreconcilablepersonalenemy.saidmeandthe...ButI“liveintheCaocampwiththeheartintheHancamp”,...zhidao.baidu.com/question/47088439.html-43k-Cached-Similarpages-pkchanUnitedStatesLocaltime:07:01SpecializesinfieldNativespeakerof:ChinesePROptsincategory:28Logintoenterapeercomment(orgrade)3hrs confidence:notbelongsomewhereatheartExplanation:Canbedifferentdependingoncircumstances.Examples:I'mdatingwithA,butamactuallyinlovewithB.I'mworkingforA,butamactuallylongingtoworkforB.I'mphysicallyatplaceA,butamactuallylongingforplaceB,etc.FYI.JasonYoungChinaLocaltime:19:01WorksinfieldNativespeakerof:ChineseLogintoenterapeercomment(orgrade)3hrs confidence:physicallypresentbutmentallyabsentExplanation:身在曹营，心在汉canbeusedtodescrive不忠心or不专心。

whichcouldeitherbedisloyalty/unfaithfulnessorlackofconcentration.TheclosestIcanthinkofare...mybodyisherebutmyheartissomewhereelse.physicallypresentbutmentallyabsent.karcsyLocaltime:19:01Nativespeakerof:ChinesePROptsincategory:6Logintoenterapeercomment(orgrade)22hrs confidence:bodyisinoneplace,whileheartisinanotherExplanation:Thoughitreallydependsonthecontext,thisphraseusuallyreferstoapersonisataplacewhereheorshedoesnotwishtobe,soIthink"bodyisinoneplace,whileheartisinanother"couldbeaclosetranslationtoit.    Reference:http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/characters/618/?...AbbyLeungLocaltime:04:01Nativespeakerof:ChineseLogintoenterapeercomment(orgrade)1day2hrs confidence:WhileImayphysicallybehere,myheartbelongselsewhere.Explanation:Mytwocents:SeveralissueswithtranslatingclassicalChinese.1)Pronounsareofttimesmissing,soforclarity'ssake(fornonClassicalspeakers),Iusuallyputthembackin.2)Historicalreferencesaredifficulttoplacebecauseitwouldcauseendlessconfusion.Sointhiscase,Ichosetotranslatethemeaninginsteadoftryingtocramthehistoricalreferencesin.Ofcourse,thereareinstanceswherethehistoricalreferenceismoreimportantandshouldbeleftin,butthat'suptothediscretionofthetranslatorandtheneedsofthetranslation.(seeAaron'sreference)SzeKwanChan(X)Localtime:07:01Nativespeakerof:English,ChinesePROptsincategory:4GradingcommentManythanks!Logintoenterapeercomment(orgrade)1day21hrs confidence:Youmayhavemyperson,butyoucannotcapturemyheart.Explanation:ThistermssuggestsapersonisphysicallypresentatlocationA,buthismindandthoughtsiselsewhere-locationB.XiaohongZhouLocaltime:07:01SpecializesinfieldNativespeakerof:ChineseLogintoenterapeercomment(orgrade)Referencecomments24minsReference:TranslationdependsReferenceinformation:ThisisfromtheRomanceoftheThreeKingdoms.Belowisatellingofthephrase'sorigin(fromhttp://zhidao.baidu.com/question/20308476.html)刘备在请出孔明前先遇到一位叫“徐庶（字元直，为人非常孝顺）”的谋士，并在出山后即帮助刘备破了曹仁的八门金锁阵，击退来犯曹军。

事后曹操因爱慕徐庶的才华，便听取程昱的计策，以徐庶好友的身份将其母骗至许昌（曹据点），并假其母笔记修书于庶，诱其降曹。

当徐庶母子相见后，其母却认为庶的行为是愚蠢（被曹操骗了）以及不忠（刘备被认为是当时皇室）的，遂自杀；此后虽然身在曹营的庶便因记恨于曹操而从不给予正面的帮助。

这就是“身在曹营心在汉”的典故。

关羽的确有这样的经历，但这句话说的不是关羽。

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