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The Galvanized status mods also serve as a counterpart to Condition Overload, but there's nothing akin to Weeping Wounds to greatly increase ... Jumptocontent News Creators Store PrimeAccess General Browse Forums Discord Fandom Facebook Twitter YouTube Twitch More Activity AllActivity MyActivityStreams UnreadContent ContentIStarted Search More LatestStaffReplies CommunityFAQ SupportDesk Guidelines More More SearchIn Everywhere Topics ThisForum ThisTopic Moreoptions... Findresultsthatcontain... Allofmysearchtermwords Anyofmysearchtermwords Findresultsin... Contenttitlesandbody Contenttitlesonly AllActivity Home Feedback General GalvanizedWeepingWounds? AngelsoftheZarimanSubforum PSA:AngelsoftheZariman:SpoilerCourtesy! GalvanizedWeepingWounds? PC By T-Shark69,July20,2021inGeneral  Share Moresharingoptions... Followers 0 RecommendedPosts T-Shark69 PostedJuly20,2021 T-Shark69 PCMember 790 Share PostedJuly20,2021 ThelatestupdateintroducedbothbuffedCriticalChancecorruptedmodsandtheheadshotGalvanizedmods(butnoshotgunsofcourse)togivesomeparitywithMeleeweaponsusingBloodRush.TheGalvanizedstatusmodsalsoserveasacounterparttoConditionOverload,butthere'snothingakintoWeepingWoundstogreatlyincreasestatuschance. As aresultivebeenfeelingkindaforcedtoleanonCritcalbuilds evenonstatusweaponssincemostweaponsnowhavesomepassableCCwiththenewadditionswhile statuschanceisbasicallythesame.CanwehavesomethingsimiliartoWeepingWoundsasaGalvanizedModorArcanebonus?  Atleastforshotgunssincethey'rehistoricallybeenstatusfocusedweapons.Personally i'dreplacetheGalvanizedAccelerationwithitsinceIseeshotgunsasheavydamageup-closeweaponsnotsomethingtosnipeacrosstheroomwith,butthatsjustme. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... (PSN)Tie-Kn33Bladdr PostedJuly20,2021 (PSN)Tie-Kn33Bladdr PSNMember 11 Share PostedJuly20,2021 GalvanizedShot,SavvyandAptitudearelikeWeepingWoundsandConditionOverloadcombinedunlessIammisunderstandingsomething.Theyincreasestatuschanceonkill(similarto WeepingWounds) aswellasdamagepertypeupto2x(similarto ConditionOverload).Butitisalsomyunderstandingthatitiscurrentlybuggedexceptonhitscanweapons,pleasesomeonecorrectmeifIamwrong.  Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... bad4youLT PostedJuly20,2021 bad4youLT PCMember 2.7k Share PostedJuly20,2021 18minutesago,(PSN)Tie-Kn33Bladdrsaid: GalvanizedShot,SavvyandAptitudearelikeWeepingWoundsandConditionOverloadcombinedunlessIammisunderstandingsomething TheyarejustCO,youdonotgainanystackingstatuschancelikeweepingwounddoes. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... (PSN)Tie-Kn33Bladdr PostedJuly20,2021 (PSN)Tie-Kn33Bladdr PSNMember 11 Share PostedJuly20,2021 4minutesago,bad4youLTsaid: TheyarejustCO,youdonotgainanystackingstatuschancelikeweepingwounddoes. Myapologiesforthemisinformation.Imisunderstoodthemod.  Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Birdframe_Prime PostedJuly20,2021 Birdframe_Prime PCMember 7.6k Share PostedJuly20,2021 Ithinkthereasontheydidn'tdothisisbecauseMeleedoesn'thavemulti-shot. See,Meleeonlyhitsanyenemyonceatatime.EveniftheStanceallowsyoutopressonebutton,buthittwice,eachofthosehitscountsasasingleone. HoweverGunshavethefunctionwhere,withmodding,youfireonebullet,ithitstwice,oreventhreetimes.ForStatuschanceonsingle-shotweapons(notshotgunswithinnatemulti-shot),thisfunctionallycreatestwoprojectileswithequalstatuschance,whichmeansthattheseweaponsdonotneedashighofaStatuschanceatbase. Goingabove100%statuschancewithMeleefunctionsbecauseitmakesoneswingoftheweaponinflict morethanonestatusproctoboostuptheirperformance. However,goingabove1Multi-shotonaRifleorPistoldoesthesamething,toagreaterorlesserextent.GalvanisedChamber,GalvanisedHellandGalvanisedDiffusionareWeepingWoundsforGuns. Especiallywithhowhightheystack,too,soyouhaveonGalvanisedChamberupto230%Multishot,whichguarantees3bulletswitha30%chanceat4.Withanydual-statcombo,likeputtingonViralwiththe60/60mods,mostgunsthathavehigherStatus,around30%,willalreadybearound66%Statusperbullet.Cumulativelythat'sa96%chanceatonestatuspershot,butnearly50%chanceat2.Which,onbalance,isequivalenttoaMeleeweaponhavingover100%statuschance. So,yousee,it'snotquiteequivalent,butit'sprobablythereasonwhywedon'thaveastraightStatusIncreasingmodlikeWeepingWoundsforguns. 4 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Bakaguya-sama PostedJuly20,2021 Bakaguya-sama PCMember 245 Share PostedJuly20,2021 3hoursago,T-Shark69said: As aresultivebeenfeelingkindaforcedtoleanonCritcalbuilds evenonstatusweaponssincemostweaponsnowhavesomepassableCCwiththenewadditionswhile statuschanceisbasicallythesame. PureStatusMeleessucktoo.IfyourunWeepingWoundandConditionOverloadwithoutanyCrit,theywillalsodoverylittledamage.I'veeventriedExodiaForceZawbuild,it'sstillprettybad.  Statusisbad.Critisgood.Status+Critisbetter,whichwhythemetaishybrid.   AWeepingwoundequivalentforgunswouldn'tsolvethisissue.Youwillstillbeslottingitintoacritbuildanyway.JustlikehowpeopleareslottingGalvanizedAptitudeintotheircritbuildgunsnow.  Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... T-Shark69 PostedJuly20,2021 T-Shark69 PCMember 790 Author Share PostedJuly20,2021 2hoursago,Birdframe_Primesaid: So,yousee,it'snotquiteequivalent,butit'sprobablythereasonwhywedon'thaveastraightStatusIncreasingmodlikeWeepingWoundsforguns. GoodpointIhadntthoughtofthat!   1hourago,Bakaguya-samasaid: A Weepingwoundequivalentforgunswouldn'tsolvethisissue.Youwillstillbeslottingitintoacritbuildanyway.JustlikehowpeopleareslottingGalvanizedAptitudeintotheircritbuildgunsnow.  Prettybadtakeconsideringthevarietyofguns,theirdamageandmodtypescomparedtoMelee.   Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Birdframe_Prime PostedJuly20,2021 Birdframe_Prime PCMember 7.6k Share PostedJuly20,2021 (edited) Inallhonesty,whatGunsneededwastwo-fold,andweonlygotpartofthefirstone.Theotherpartwegotwasthewrongdirection. Whatmakesmeleestrongisn'tjustthemods,it'sthemechanicsaroundit. Forexample,takethesimplestatonmelee;FollowThrough.ThismeansthateverysinglemeleeweaponisanAoE,oratleastacone-of-effect.Itwillhitallenemiesinrangeofeverysingleattack. Whatdogunshave?PunchThrough.It'sastatthatallowsweaponstohitsomethingelsethat'sdirectlyinthelineoffire,whichisusefulbecausewithoutitdeadbodiescanblockshotsmeantforenemiesbehindthem.Howeveronlyabout10%ofgunsactuallyhavethisstatatbase.BowsandSnipersgetit,althoughbowsonlywhenyoufullychargetheshot,butthevastmajorityofpistols,rifles,shotgunsandthrownweaponsactuallyhavetomodthissloton. WithoutPunchThroughtheclosestwegetisactualAoEweaponsandChainingweapons.ThesetwotypesaretheMetaforareason.Everysinglebuild-craftYoutuberwentnutsbecausetheTenetTetradidn'thavefall-offdamageonitsexplosionmode,andwiththerightmodsandtheEnergisedMunitionsabilityitwasanuke.DEaddedfall-offandthosebuildswentabitwonky.Why?Becausetheyhiteverythinginrangeoftheirattacks. Melee,bydefault,hassomethingthataround80%ofgunsdonothave,whichistheabilitytohitmultipleenemieswiththeirattacks. Sowhydogunsnothavesomethinglikethat?Whynot,fornon-punch-through,non-chainingandnon-AoEweapons,forthe80%thathavenoneofthem,givesomethinglike'ricochet'or'shrapnel'.Whatthisdoesis,onhit,causeasecondinstanceofdamagetothenearestenemyatreduceddamage.Withhighenough'ricochet'or'shrapnel'stats,thiscouldhitmorethanoneenemy,aslongasthoseenemieswereinradiusofthefirst. Addinginastattosupplementthefactthat80%ofgunshavenowayofhittingmorethanoneenemyatatime,inagamewithasmanyon-screenenemiesasWarframe?Justmakesalittlesense. ThenextexampleisthatMeleecanampupitsdamagewithoutasingleregularmodequippedbecausetheyhaveStances.Stancesmakeanimation-basedmulti-hits,theymakecertainattacksdealdifferentamountsofdamage,theyguaranteestatuseffects(likeNikanascandoguaranteedBleedprocsontheirHeavyAttacks,whichishugewhenbuiltfor)orRapierscantoaguaranteedprocofBleedjustforhittingtheneutralmeleebuttononce. Gunsdonothaveanythinglikethat, InsteadwegotArcanes.TheystackuplikeaComboCounter,basedonthekillsweget,andbasedonthedifferentmethodswegetthem.Exceptyouneedtogoandgetanitemtounlockthis,whereMeleehastheirstancebydefault,andonceyouhaveityoudon'tgetanymoreCapacity,becauseMeleeStancesalladd10ModPointCapacity. ArcanesshouldhavebeentheequivalentofMeleeStances. IncreaseModPointCapacity,changetheactualbehaviourofgunsbasedonwhatyou'redoing(hipfire,aiming,hipfirewhilemoving,aimingwhilemoving,aimgliding...)andcausecertainactionstohaveguaranteedresults. Imaginehowgoodastanceforasemi-autoriflewouldbeinsteadofPrimaryDeadHead;thisstancebuffsbasedamage(justthewayaStancedoes)forAimingwhilestationary,keepsitcompletelyneutralforhipfire,reducesitslightlybutinsteadincreasesfireratewhilemovingandhipfiring,andthenmassivelyslowsfirerate,butmassivelybuffsdamagewhileAimGliding.And,becausethiswouldbetheDeadHeadStance,yougetadditionaldamageforheadshots,andheadshotkillswouldgiveyouaguaranteedeffect,liketheArcane'sbonusestoRecoil. You'dneednoanimations,butthegunwouldbeinstantlymorepowerful,justlikeStancesdo.Heck,withaStanceyoucouldevenbringinPrimaryFinishers(likewesawwithKahlatTennocon). Addinganotherfeaturetogunstoensurethatwedon'thaveto9Formasomeofthemtofitafullbuildon,thatwouldbefantastic. EditedJuly20,2021byBirdframe_Prime 1 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... T-Shark69 PostedJuly20,2021 T-Shark69 PCMember 790 Author Share PostedJuly20,2021 15minutesago,Birdframe_Primesaid: Inallhonesty,whatGunsneededwastwo-fold,andweonlygotpartofthefirstone.Theotherpartwegotwasthewrongdirection. IagreewithwhatyousaidandIhavesomemoregripeswiththecurrentgunsystembutI'dthinkwe'ddivergetoomuchfromwhatIoriginallyintended.FornowI'dbecontentwithsomemorestatuslove,butI'mhopingtheytakeabetterlookatthingsmovingforward. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... rapt0rman PostedJuly20,2021 rapt0rman PCMember 6.2k Share PostedJuly20,2021 (edited) @Birdframe_Prime Byitselfitwouldn'tbeasolutiontotheproblem,butpunctureprocsshouldreallygivepunchthrough/followthrough,it'slike... thewholeidea....(itwouldalsocauseotherproblemsthatwouldneedfixingsomeh) EditedJuly20,2021byrapt0rman Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 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