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Maiming Strike - Changes from an additive buff to a stacking buff, but base functionality increased to a Significant % of the old version to ... Jumptocontent News Creators Store PrimeAccess PlayershelpingPlayers Browse Forums Discord Fandom Facebook Twitter YouTube Twitch More Activity AllActivity MyActivityStreams UnreadContent ContentIStarted Search More LatestStaffReplies CommunityFAQ SupportDesk Guidelines More More SearchIn Everywhere Topics ThisForum ThisTopic Moreoptions... Findresultsthatcontain... Allofmysearchtermwords Anyofmysearchtermwords Findresultsin... Contenttitlesandbody Contenttitlesonly AllActivity Home Community PlayershelpingPlayers MaimingStrikeNerf AngelsoftheZarimanSubforum PSA:AngelsoftheZariman:SpoilerCourtesy! 1 MaimingStrikeNerf Askedby Nephalem,November2,2019  Share Moresharingoptions... Followers 0 Question Nephalem PostedNovember2,2019 Nephalem PCMember 457 Share PostedNovember2,2019 Soooooonascalefrom1to10howbadlydidtheynerfthemod?Askingthissinceidon'tevenknowifthemodworks.Iseabsolutelynodifferenceincrit/dmgwiththemodequipedornot. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 29answerstothisquestion 0 SelectRows All None Hidden Unhidden Unapproved Sortbyvotes Sortbydate Prev 1 2 Next Page1of2  RecommendedPosts 0 GnarlsDarkley PostedNovember2,2019 GnarlsDarkley PCMember 6.3k 9 Share PostedNovember2,2019 Well...it's+150%multiplicativefromyourbasecritchanceinsteadaflat+90%critchance. Takingthetypicalspin2winweapon,Atterax,withits25%CCyou'llendupwith37,5%CCinsteadof115%CCwhilesliding.   That'sroughly1/3ofitsoriginalpower 1 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 Nephalem PostedNovember2,2019 Nephalem PCMember 457 Author Share PostedNovember2,2019 Justnow,GnarlsDarkleysaid: Well...it's+150%multiplicativefromyourbasecritchanceinsteadaflat+90%critchance. Takingthetypicalspin2winweapon,Atterax,withits25%CCyou'llendupwith37,5%CCinsteadof115%CCwhilesliding.   That'sroughly1/3ofitsoriginalpower Ilikehowthementionedspinwillremainthesameandinsteadtheynerfedthemoditself.GotahandittoDE,everymainlinepatchtheydotheyhavetoFupsomething. Welp,inshortspinisdead. 2 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 GnarlsDarkley PostedNovember2,2019 GnarlsDarkley PCMember 6.3k 9 Share PostedNovember2,2019 (edited) 3minutesago,Nephalemsaid: Ilikehowthementionedspinwillremainthesame Iwassayingtheexactsameacoupleofhoursago 7hoursago,GnarlsDarkleysaid: IclearlyrememberScottsayinginoneofthefirstMelee3.0DevstreamwhenRebwasonthePlains:"Youcanstillplayasofnow.Nothingwillchangeifyoudon'twantit". Well,Iguess,itwasalie.Again.Icannotplaylikebeforebecausemyoutputisnow4kat12xinsteadof270kat3xwiththesameweaponandbuild    3minutesago,Nephalemsaid: inshortspinisdead. kinda.GuandaoandOrthosPrimecanstillredcrit,butit'salotweakerandonlyviableuntilSortie1 Justnow,CephalonDizzysaid: Wouldn'titbe62.5%whilesliding? maybe.IwasneververygoodatmathandIwastryingtodoquickmathlol EditedNovember2,2019byGnarlsDarkley Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 CephalonDizzy PostedNovember2,2019 CephalonDizzy PCMember 445 Share PostedNovember2,2019 Wouldn'titbe62.5%whilesliding? Itwouldbe37.5%bonusontopofthe25%basecritchance. Stilldecentlystrongbutmuchweakerthanbefore. Therealnerfinmyopinionwastobloodrush,sincethecombomultipliercritbonusonlyaccountsforbasecrit. Sonolongerwoulditbebasecrit+90%frommaimingstrike*bloodrushmultiplier. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 Nephalem PostedNovember2,2019 Nephalem PCMember 457 Author Share PostedNovember2,2019 (edited) 6minutesago,GnarlsDarkleysaid: Iwassayingtheexactsameacoupleofhoursago   kinda.GuandaoandOrthosPrimecanstillredcrit,butit'salotweakerandonlyviableuntilSortie1 ImusingGuandaoandibarelyHitorangecritswithbloodrush,constantyellowcritsandthedamageispathetic.Keepinmindihavearivenwith128%slideand95,6%Cdwitha 5.6xcritmult.Thedamageisindeedabithighersincetheyincreacedthebaseonebutthecritsarepathetic.Whatawasteofkuva.....136rerollsfornothing.NowineedaCC+CDoneinsteadofslide. TYDEforanotherlie!Theyalwayshavetonerfthegoodstuffsandgiveuscrapynewthingstouseinstead. Initialyithoughttheslidecritwillincreacewitheachussagelikethefirstslide+30%nextone+60upto150%butitseemsitsmuchworse.... EditedNovember2,2019byNephalem Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 TARINunit9 PostedNovember2,2019 TARINunit9 PCMember 10.4k 9 Share PostedNovember2,2019 9minutesago,GnarlsDarkleysaid: Well,Iguess,itwasalie.Again. DidyouhonestlyexpectthemtonotnerfMaimingOverload?Theysaidmultipletimes"yeswearenerfingMaimingStrikeandConditionOverload" Butthenyougoandcherrypickonepieceofevidencethatmightgiveyouhopethey'renotnerfingitsoyoucanaccusethemof"lies" 2 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 Nephalem PostedNovember2,2019 Nephalem PCMember 457 Author Share PostedNovember2,2019 12minutesago,GnarlsDarkleysaid: "Youcanstillplayasofnow.Nothingwillchangeifyoudon'twantit".   1minuteago,TARINunit9said: DidyouhonestlyexpectthemtonotnerfMaimingOverload?Theysaidmultipletimes"yeswearenerfingMaimingStrikeandConditionOverload" Butthenyougoandcherrypickonepieceofevidencethatmightgiveyouhopethey'renotnerfingitsoyoucanaccusethemof"lies" TheymentionondevstreamsandprimetimethatitwillRemainthesameandnothingwillchange(regardingmaimingstrike).Doyouthinkanyonewouldsaysomethingiftheykepttheyrword?Imeanok,itsverryusefulllsomedecreaceinCCbutthisisoverthetop.Themodisliteralynonexistent.Itdoesnothingtothedamagenow. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 TARINunit9 PostedNovember2,2019 TARINunit9 PCMember 10.4k 9 Share PostedNovember2,2019 2minutesago,Nephalemsaid: TheymentionondevstreamsandprimetimethatitwillRemainthesameandnothingwillchange(regardingmaimingstrike).Doyouthinkanyonewouldsaysomethingiftheykepttheyrword? NotheydidnotpromiseyouthatMaimingStrikewouldremainexactlythesame: On2019-10-18at10:58AM,[DE]Bearsaid: 9.ModRe-balancing andFunctionalityChanges Forfulltransparency,someofthesearenerfstospecificMods ConditionOverload-Nowstacksatamaximumof3StatusEffects,howeverdamageisbeingincreasedfrom60%toahigherpercenttobalancethechange.Final%tocome.  MaimingStrike-Changesfromanadditivebufftoastackingbuff,butbasefunctionalityincreasedtoaSignificant%oftheoldversiontobalancethechange.Final%tocomesoon. Notethedate.Note.The.Date.TheytoldyouweeksagothatMaimingStrikewasgoingtogetabighonkingnerf 2 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 GnarlsDarkley PostedNovember2,2019 GnarlsDarkley PCMember 6.3k 9 Share PostedNovember2,2019 3minutesago,TARINunit9said: Notethedate endof2018intheDevstreamtheypromisedtheywon'tchangeit. october2019theyannouncetheynerfit. whichmakesthisalie.andafact.   Weknewit,yes.Butthisdoesn'tcoverupthelie. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 TARINunit9 PostedNovember2,2019 TARINunit9 PCMember 10.4k 9 Share PostedNovember2,2019 11minutesago,GnarlsDarkleysaid: whichmakesthisalie Firstoff,Idon'tevenbelieveyouwhentheysaidtheyweren'tnerfingit.TheymadeabsolutelynosecrettheyHATEDMaimingStrikeandweregoingtonerfittokingdom come.That'swhytheymadeitstophittingenemiesthroughwalls.Secondly,changingaproductbeforereleaseisnotalie.OrareyougoingtocallKenLevinealiarbecause BioshockInfiniteremovedthescenewhereyoulandonablimptobreakyourfall? 1 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 Nephalem PostedNovember2,2019 Nephalem PCMember 457 Author Share PostedNovember2,2019 19minutesago,TARINunit9said: Firstoff,Idon'tevenbelieveyouwhentheysaidtheyweren'tnerfingit.TheymadeabsolutelynosecrettheyHATEDMaimingStrikeandweregoingtonerfittokingdom come.That'swhytheymadeitstophittingenemiesthroughwalls.Secondly,changingaproductbeforereleaseisnotalie.OrareyougoingtocallKenLevinealiarbecause BioshockInfiniteremovedthescenewhereyoulandonablimptobreakyourfall? WearetalkingaboutDEherenottheotherS#&$ycompaiesthatdowhatevertheypleaseregardlessofhowitwillaffecttheplayers. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 TARINunit9 PostedNovember2,2019 TARINunit9 PCMember 10.4k 9 Share PostedNovember2,2019 12minutesago,Nephalemsaid: WearetalkingaboutDEhere AndifyoucantellmehowDEchanginganupdatebeforeitshiftsisa"lie"while IrrationalGameschangingtheirproductbeforeitshipsisn'ta"lie",I'mlistening Productschangeindevelopmentallthetime.Don'tbotherwastingtimesaying"youliedtous!"withoutunderstandingwhatliesactuallyare.Whatyou,Nephalem, shouldbedoingispostingfeedbackabouthowthefinishedproductdoesn'tsatisfyyou(afterall,there'saLOToffeedbackyoucouldgiveoncritweaponsandcombocounter).Andyes,youarestillallowedtouseexamplesofpre-releasepreviewsasexamplesofsuperioralternatives,justdon'tgethungupon"promises"and"lies".Savethatfortheclass-actionlawsuit,Gnarls Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 Numerikuu PostedNovember4,2019 Numerikuu PCMember 2.1k 3 Share PostedNovember4,2019 On2019-11-02at5:30PM,GnarlsDarkleysaid: endof2018intheDevstreamtheypromisedtheywon'tchangeit. october2019theyannouncetheynerfit. whichmakesthisalie.andafact.   Weknewit,yes.Butthisdoesn'tcoverupthelie. Thatwasalongtimeagololgg.Theychangedtheirmindsafterallthespin-to-wincomplaints,andIdon'tblamethem.Usingmacrostospinaroundlikeadamnbeybladeandwipingoutentireroomsinmeresecondswasneverintended. 1 Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 xxswatelitexx PostedNovember4,2019 xxswatelitexx PCMember 1.1k Share PostedNovember4,2019 (edited) On2019-11-02at1:02PM,Nephalemsaid: Ilikehowthementionedspinwillremainthesameandinsteadtheynerfedthemoditself.GotahandittoDE,everymainlinepatchtheydotheyhavetoFupsomething. Welp,inshortspinisdead. Theybuffedcombomultiplierheavily.Beforeittooklike1 minute toreach3x nowittakeslike10s. Theproblemispeoplecomplainingonlyarelookingatsinglenumbers,butnotallthechangescombined. Itsureisn'taspowerfulasbefore-butnowitisactuallybalancedtoitsintendedpurposeasagapcloserandcombomultiplier. Soheavyattackscanfocusmoreonsingletargetdamage. EditedNovember4,2019byxxswatelitexx Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 MadMattPrime PostedNovember4,2019 MadMattPrime PCMember 244 Share PostedNovember4,2019 Stillusablebutnotasgoodasoldtimes,itsimplybecamea"Pointstrike"forslideattacks Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 FreeWilliam PostedNovember4,2019 FreeWilliam PCMember 1k Share PostedNovember4,2019 On2019-11-02at12:02PM,Nephalemsaid: Welp,inshortspinisdead. Ohnoes,whateverwillwedo?   *FeignsSadness* (Andyes,the'sopowerfulthatthere'snopointindoinganythingelse'partofSpin2Winisdead.) Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 vitreloy PostedNovember4,2019 vitreloy PCMember 168 Share PostedNovember4,2019 ShadowStalker'sacolytesdiewithittoo. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 hooperinius PostedNovember5,2019 hooperinius PCMember 754 Share PostedNovember5,2019 Critsstillworkverywell...maimingjustisn'taspowerfulasitwas. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 toafarmer PostedNovember5,2019 toafarmer PCMember 598 Share PostedNovember5,2019 youcan'trefertonerfsasnerfsintheforums,yougottacallthe"rework"or"rebalance". Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 (XBOX)COAAltair PostedNovember5,2019 (XBOX)COAAltair XboxMember 853 Share PostedNovember5,2019 Maimingismultiplicativenowanditisnolongerasickcombowithbloodrushbecausebloodrushusedtobecalculatedafterallothercritmods,nowitsimplygoesoffbasecritchanceallthetime. Inshort,bothmodswereweakenedquiteabitwiththemeleerework.   Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 kwlingo PostedNovember5,2019 kwlingo PCMember 2.6k Share PostedNovember5,2019 On2019-11-02at12:02PM,Nephalemsaid: Ilikehowthementionedspinwillremainthesameandinsteadtheynerfedthemoditself.GotahandittoDE,everymainlinepatchtheydotheyhavetoFupsomething. Thisactuallymadeitmorebalanced.Guasswiththespintowinwastopteiredatonepointbeforethenerf.lolEvenrunningupsidedownitkillfasterthanyoucanblink Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 kwlingo PostedNovember5,2019 kwlingo PCMember 2.6k Share PostedNovember5,2019 (edited) 9hoursago,(XB1)COAAltairsaid: Maimingismultiplicativenowanditisnolongerasickcombowithbloodrushbecausebloodrushusedtobecalculatedafterallothercritmods,nowitsimplygoesoffbasecritchanceallthetime. Inshort,bothmodswereweakenedquiteabitwiththemeleerework.   Allcritsandstatusareoffbasedamagenow.JustbalancedtheOPeffectsofmods.Atleasttheydidn'tgoasfarasnerfingrivendispositionfrom5 to0oncatchmoonthatover50%ofplayersused.lolCouldntbelievethatnumberwhenisawitonstream.ahahtheyshouldhaveZer0edtheRivenDis. EditedNovember5,2019bykwlingo Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 fr4gb4ll PostedNovember5,2019 fr4gb4ll PCMember 2.3k Share PostedNovember5,2019 On2019-11-02at6:45PM,TARINunit9said: TheymadeabsolutelynosecrettheyHATEDMaimingStrike maybetheyshouldstartthinkingabouttheirchoicesofreleasesbeforehandinsteadofthrowingitoutandhatingthefactthatplayerslovetousethenewcontendinwaysDEneverintendedit.andofc,removing/changingitthen,willpiѕѕoffthoseplayerswholovedthis'contend'.maimingstrikewasn'tthefirst'mistake'DEmadeandletus'beta-tester'dotheirwork-rivenmodswerejustanotherexampletothisrashness,asaremanyframeabilitiesinthepast. so,doIhatethechangetheydonetothemaimingstrike(andthesamerivenstatwiththiseffect)?isuredo!whatpiѕsesmeofmostthough,isthatthis'nerf'isyetanotherideatheyseeminglydidn'tthoughtthrough...atleastnotforthoseplayerswholikeplayinglongendlessmissioninwhichmaimingcheesewasaverygoodwaytodealwithhighlevelenemies.now,onlyyourun-of-the-millnukerwilldothejob-whichmakesthoserunsevenlessappealingformanyplayer.asforthe'normal'mission-doingbehaviour,thespin-to-winstillkillsabouteverymobbelowlevel100...sothiswasratherpointlessifDEthoughttopreventveteranplayerdestroyingthegame-experiencefornewplayer.or,DEjusthatewhewedoinglongendlessmissions,forwhatreasonsever-atleast,igetthisfeelingfromcertainchangesDEmadeovertheyears. Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 TARINunit9 PostedNovember6,2019 TARINunit9 PCMember 10.4k 9 Share PostedNovember6,2019 1hourago,fr4gb4llsaid: asforthe'normal'mission-doingbehaviour,thespin-to-winstillkillsabouteverymobbelowlevel100...sothiswasratherpointlessifDEthoughttopreventveteranplayerdestroyingthegame-experiencefornewplayer.or,DEjusthatewhewedoinglongendlessmissions,forwhatreasonsever-atleast,igetthisfeelingfromcertainchangesDEmadeovertheyears. IhighlydoubtyoucancalltheMaimingStrikenerfafailurejustbecauseyoucanstillstealallthekillsfromanMR0byusinganAtterax.ThisisaworldwhereMaimquinoxstillexists,soobviouslythatwasn'ttheirendgoal. Theirendgoal almostcertainlyWAStokillourabilitytodoendlessmissions.Theyhavetopicktheirpoisonbetweenwatchingussurvive2hoursinArbitrationsandwatchingtheirnextbigcontentupdatesucceed: DEisabouttoreleasePlainsofDuvuriandRailjack,andfrombothagamedesignperspectiveandabusinessperspectivetheirabilitytosucceedisGREATLYdiminishedifplayersjustusethesamedominantstrategyofMaimingBodyRushOverload AnanalogyIusedacoupleweeksagowasStarcraftcirca2016.TheoriginalZergRush(build8to10Zerglingsinlessthanthreeminutesandwinthegameinlessthanfive)wasanobviouspoweroutlierintheearlymeta,andBlizzardhadtonerfthehelloutofit.TheonlywaythemetawasgoingtoflourishwastonerfZerglings--whichdidn'thappeninisolation,severalZergunitswereBUFFEDinthatsamepatch(muchlikeinWFrightnow).Whileit'scomparingPvPtoPvE,asimilarsituationisgoingonhere:DEfeeltheycan'tmakeagoodupdaterevolvingaround thepreviouspowerstructure Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... 0 Fallen77 PostedNovember6,2019 Fallen77 PCMember 2.2k 1 Share PostedNovember6,2019 Le2/11/2019à18:30,GnarlsDarkleyadit : endof2018intheDevstreamtheypromisedtheywon'tchangeit. october2019theyannouncetheynerfit. whichmakesthisalie.andafact.   Weknewit,yes.Butthisdoesn'tcoverupthelie. Cherrypicking.Youreallyaregonnausewhattheysaidin2018?WhiletheprojectwasstillWIP?Asopposedtothestreamthatwaspartiallydedicatedtoitslaunch? Stopitwithyour"it'salie"nonsense.Aliemeansthatyouwerepromisedsomethinginthatcase.Theydidnotpromiseanythingtoyou,theyonlygaveyouasneackpickattheirideasatthetime.Soentitled...   Linktocomment Shareonothersites Moresharingoptions... Prev 1 2 Next Page1of2  Createanaccountorsignintocomment Youneedtobeamemberinordertoleaveacomment Createanaccount Signupforanewaccountinourcommunity.It'seasy! Registeranewaccount Signin Alreadyhaveanaccount?Signinhere. SignInNow  Share Moresharingoptions... 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